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when the obama administration says they're willing to go off the cliff if a deal is not reached on rates? >> i don't think it's a bluff. if you look at the reality of what happens, all the leverage which i -- right now clearly the white house has. they get more leverage if we go over their cliff. you can argue that would not send a good message to the country, to the world. it would prove that we are dysfunctional and cannot govern, et cetera, et cetera. in terms of dealing with the policy problem, which is you have this massive and growing debt, you have to bring in more revenues. there's multiple ways to do it, but critical ways to raise rates on the top end. it was what the election was about. republicans want to play the game where they think they get something. at the end of the day they lose worse if we go over the cliff. >> that's an interesting insight because you have alan simpson on the "today" show asked dp one side is a winner or loser off the cliff. here's what he had to say, chris. >> when you have leaders from the administration saying i think it's to the advantag
it to congressman louie gomez, the old birther himself to suggest that the obama administration is in league with the muslim brotherhood. >>> my memory of what americans had, two political parties that were modern and moderate. that was a long time ago. we are going to talk about the days of eisenhower. this is hardball, the place for politics. >>> welcome back to "hardball." there's a reason mitt romney's team seemed confident in the days leading up to the election. remember how they were? their internal polls showed romney on the brink of victory. the electorate they told themselves existed bore little resemblance to the people who showed up to the polls. "the new republic" magazine obtained the internal poll numbers from the romney camp in the days leading up to the november 6th election. in iowa the campaign's numbers showed them tied with obama. in reality obama beat romney by about 6 points. in colorado romney's team thought they were up by 2.5. they actually wound up losing by 5.5. in new hampshire, romney's polls had him up by 3. the new repep luck showed his numbers were off in wisc
of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington.
about where wealthy folks are, with respect to the obama administration. and we saw all the data on wall street, the pendulum swinging away from barack obama towards mitt romney, how much of it is genuine self-interest in the sense of, just something as simple as the amount of taxes they will pay? >> i would say all of it. i really would. i would say all ofç it. the banks have two choices. four years ago, they had the choice between barack obama and they knew exactly who he was going to appoint in terms of ben bernanke and timothy geithner, the combination of the team that had saved the world from utter financial collapse. and that's what they knew they needed. and john mccain, on the other hand, was running around like a headless chicken, and they were scared, they were petrified he would become president, especially with his vice presidential candidate. so they voted in their self-interest, because they knew that the system needed to be saved. now that the system is saved is, they just want to pay less taxes. >> that gets to this question of narrow self-interest versus broad self-int
to suggest that the obama administration is in league with the muslim brotherhood. for an old birther like louie, the election is never over. >>> let me finish with my memory of when americans really had, believe it or not, two political parties that were modern and moderate. that was a long time ago. we'll talk about the days of eisenhower. this is "hardball," the place for politics. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. part of a whole new line of tablets from dell. it's changing the conversation. ♪ >>> house speaker john boehner, the aforementioned speaker, is now 1 for 20. he's finally named a woman, believe it or not, to serve as one of his chairs in the 20 house committees he oversees. congresswoman candice miller of michigan will chair the house administration committee,
it to congressman louie gohmert to suggest that the obama administration is in league with the muslim brotherhood. for an old birther like louie, the election is another over. >>> let me finish with my memory of when americans really had, believe it or not, two political parties that were modern and mod rad. that was a long time ago. we'll talk about the days of eisenhower. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios brotherhood. this is "hardball," the place it's changing the conversation. ♪ for an old birther like louie, for politics. >>> house speaker john boehner, the aforementioned speaker, is now 1 for 20. he's finally named a woman, believe it or not, to serve as one of his chairs in the 20 house committees he oversooes. congresswoman candice miller of michigan will chair the house administration committee, it's a big one. the republicans took a lot of heat after announcing the o
as well. so the obama administration is so far out there, that what the republicans are doing is pointing out how reasonable they are, taking bowles' idea, i see he's playing democrat partisan today -- >> part of that is actually putting revenue on the table which speaker boehner has said multiple times he's open to doing, that includes closing loopholes and ending deductions. not words that are political kryptoni kryptonite. for the republican party that has stoked the eyre on the ends of the spectrum including erick erickson they said this the gop selling out. do you agree with that or not? >> not at this point. we were in this point two years ago when the same things were discussed with obama during the debt ceiling increase and at the end of the day, we ended up with $2.5 trillion in spending savings and not a dollar of tax increase. why? because obama overplayed his hand. he's doing it again. just as he did in 2008. he thought the country had given him a blank sheet of paper to work on. he did the stimulus spending. he went from 70% support down to below 50% and lost the house. now h
untrumpeted by the white house. up until now the obama administration's record on whistle blowers has been problematic. as they highlighted in an august document defending the administration's record on leaks, they have prosecuted twice as many cases under be the espionage act as all other administrations combined. the obama administration's history of aggressively prosecuting leakers has dissturkd lawmakers and activists from the left and right because of the essential role of whistle blowers in rooting out malfeasance. barack obama has managed to both prosecute a record number of leakers and sign genuine concrete legislation to protect whistle blowers. now who deserves whistle-blower protections is up for debate and the meaning for that as well. no case illustrates that more acutely than bradley manning. the army private who is accused of leaking classified documents to wikileaks. he testified about his detention over the past two years. joining me is daniel brian, a.l. press. author of "beautiful souls, saying no." ." ed pilkington. he's been covering the trial and zachary iskole. he's
is the right word. given that the obama administration would happily raise taxes without cutting medicare but republicans will only raise taxes if we cut medicare. obama won't negotiate on his own and republicans are now scared to negotiate with him. joining me now is jared bernstein from budget and policy priority. great blogger. former chief economist for vice president joe biden. good to see you. thank you for being here on a friday. >> can't think after better way to start my weekend than talking fiscal cliff to you. >> means a lot to me. >> i know. >> the daily beast said obama just got re-elected. it is a classic time for magnonimity. which i think i just mispronounced. do you think obama has a hard line at the wrong time? >>. if sullivan means that obama should negotiate with himself, which you point out, hasn't worked for him before, and b, isn't the way it move forward once you won an election with the what you are arguing over, i disagree. the right way to negotiate is not to come out and say, here is what we want republicans. here is what we want. here is your opening bid as yo
for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of issuing a response if a petition gathering 25,000 signatures in 30 days has caught the attention of the internet trolls. it was the forum used by over 100,000 texans to secede from the united states, which resulted in another petition to withdraw. anything can happen. you can see where this is going. but there's one petition on the site that we here at "the ed show" can certainly get behind. it's a substantial stimulus project that would create millions of jobs, boost america's steel industry, got to love that, expand our space program, and basically guarantee our national security. what could be better? someone has petitioned the administration to build a death star. the fictional moon-size space base capable of destroying entire planets from "star wars." just under 2,000 people have signed the petition to ask president obama to secure the resources to construct a death
is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration, the question is, is it in their interest to trade tax cuts for the wealthy? increase for the wealthy for raising the age for eligibility for medicare, for example. i'm not sure that that's a trade that they are eager to make immediately. >> let me show you the side by side comparison. the president wants $1.6 trillion in revenue and republicans want to cap the same deductions for the rich but republicans want to change the age to 67 and change the way they calculate social security payments. i wonder, though, when we look at these numbers, are we that far apart in. >> i think they are definitely rather far aare part at this moment in time. yeah, absolutely. >> so there are so many ways that any of this could affect the average tack payer, obviously if taxes go up. but what about funding to states and localities. i know that one of the things that they are concerned about is that when you make cuts, that essentially those cuts are going to come on their budgets. what could happen in a meeting like thi
immigrants who have been granted permits by the be obama administration to remain the in the united states. the deferred action program allows undocumented immigrants under 31 to avoid deportation if they arrived here before turning 16, have been in the country five straight years and are in school or have graduated from high school or a geds program or served in the military. brewer who has battled the obama administration over her state's immigration policies insists she's obeying laws. >> the state is the one that licenses the people to be able to drive on the streets. it's not the federal government. i'm not surprised i'm being sued, but that's the law and i'm going to obey my oath of office. >> it is worth noting that according to the arizona republic, the state already grants licenses to noncitizens with work permits. brewer seems to be singling out those who have received their permits through the department of homeland security's executive action. translation, jan brewer is picking a fight with president obama. michael steele, i have to go to you first on this. >> okay. sure, why n
possibly in the future lead to theent duction of american military forces. the obama administration is right they don't want to go into syria. they have avoided a u.s. military intervention but chemical weapons changes everything in the calculation. the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you. >> it's important to remember what susan said was based on the information that had been given to every senior official. in our administration. and she made very clear in her appearances that the information was subject to change, as more facts were gathered and analyzed by the intelligence community and looked, as often the case, our understanding evolved over time. and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. >> so obviously, secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of sus
not, no. it's farcical. this is a generation al issue and the obama administration is going to have to gibe at some point on its theory of law. i think a couple days the u.s. attorney in washington said the federal law trumps what you guys are going. people are going to say no, enough. and the obama administration just started ramping up prosecutions of this. this is unusual for me. >> yeah. do you agree, goldie? >> i do, except heroin is making a comeback and that's really unfortunate. but do i think the legalization of marijuana will increase its usage, i don't. people who want to partake, are already partaking. so i think that we ought to just remove the gloves, let people do what they want to do in the privacy of their own homes. free up our police to direct their things to things that are much more important. these people aren't going to get in the car and drive. hell, they can't even kind their far keys after a good joint. so the issue really is about criminalizing things and making a pathway for our young boys, chiefly boys, from the high school straight to prison. that pipel
. amid reports the obama administration is preparing to recognize syria's opposition council as the legitimate representative of the people, clinton notes rebels are now able to hold their ground and take the fight to government forces. >> we have been deeply involved in helping to stand them up, and we're going to carefully consider what more we can do. >>> and on iran's nuclear ambitions, clinton says with the u.s. election over, now's the time to see if there's any hope for negotiating in good faith. >> there is still a window of opportunity to reach some kind of resolution. >>> and back here to main street, usa, a couple of great stories for you. yesterday in sandy-stricken new jersey and new york, a secret santa was handing out $100 bills. the anonymous missouri man sought out people who had been devastated by hurricane sandy. and while he plans to hand out $100,000 in total, he says it's not about the money. it's about committing random acts of kindness. >>> speaking of random acts, this new york city police officer did something incredibly kind for a homeless veteran i
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is the obama administration going to do? >> the president has been clear he's against legalization. we know we are going to have a cheaper drug, more people are going to use it. it's going to be more socially acceptable. it's a problem in one in six kids. it can be a problem on the roads and learning iq. the administration is against it. what the justice department does because they have ten different legal things they are trying to do. that's the more interesting question. federal is federal law. i can't imagine the administration is going to say they are okay with retail sales. you might be able to have people grow their own. i think if the governor of colorado was right to say not to break out the cheetos just yet. a lot needs to be ironed out here. >> the studies and negative consequences. there's a lot of interesting gain on this. there's data with no effect. some that finds some negative facts depending on when kids smoke it. it has to be compared to alcohol. in some ways, that becomes a big issue. there's lots of negative effects of alcohol. >> it's legal because of a cultural history.
campaign style efforts to bear on a policy debate. this not the first time the obama administration has done this. in fact, this isn't even a new thing for president's broadly speaking. president obama did not invent this strategy of trying to get his way on policy. remember george w. bush after he was reelected. george w. bush took off an a tour of the country at the start of his second term. what president bush was barn storming the country with to call americans to action about was his idea we should privatize social security. >> i like going around the country. i am going to keep telling people we've got a problem until it sinks in. >> it did not sink in and we did not turn social security over to wall street the way president bush suggested. that is less a caution for the current president, that president's broadly speaking shouldn't try to involve their public in their policy causes. it seems less a caution for president's broadly speaking on trying to do that than it is a specific cautionary tale about trying to involve the public in your cause when the public hates your cause, w
of their upset over comments made on sunday morning talk shows by a member of the obama administration on the weekend after the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. republican senator susan collins has now decided that that administration official, u.n. ambassador susan rice, is someone she could not support for secretary of state if president obama nominates her for that job because susan rice chose to appear on those sunday shows at all, regardless of what she said there. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign by agreeing to go on the sunday shows to present the administration's position. >> seriously. they're no longer even complaining about what she said. they're complaining that she went on a sunday show. so, therefore, she can't be secretary of state. for senator susan collins, appearing on a sunday show is something a politician would do. she doesn't want somebody for secretary of state who would do something like that. be totally in
when the obama administration got belarus to give up their highly enriched uranium too. their stockpile of the material was taken away and secured by the united states. the guy in kazakhstan, the guy who named a national holiday in his own honor, he agreed to give up a portion of his country's highly-enriched uranium and all the risk that goes with it. it's remarkable that coup tries that used to be part of a soviet union, these countries agreed to give up their nuclear weapons and that they also agreed to give up material used to make nuclear weapons. so while there are a lot of things to worry about with belarus, we can worry a little less about their stockpile because they let us lock some of it up. american policy that makes this a priority is now more than 20 years old. it goes back to 1992. it's the cooperative threat reduction program. it's named after the senator sam nun and richard lugar. this is one of the things that our government does. you may remember me wearing a funny outfit when we traveled to mexico while they were giving up the last of their jury rain yum. working wit
assignment in mind for the governor. >> breaking news, there is no job for mitt romney in the obama administration but mitt romney will get to full full a lifelong dream tomorrow. he is going to walk into the white house, not the way he wanted it. president obama is keeping a promise he made on election night by having a private lunch with romney on thursday. a few weeks ago, president obama said romney could actually bring something to the table. >> i do think he did a terrific job running the olympics. that skill set applies to the federal government. >> turns out, romney doesn't have an eye on helping the country. he is helping to move on into an office at his son, tag's private equity firm. it is unclear what role he will be playing. he spenlt the last seven years running to serve his country and now he is going back to the private sector. he is not out serving the public or helping the country move forward. this just underscores everything we thought about mitt romney. all he cares about is money. good for him. >>> romney campaign strategist, stuart stevens is complaining about
preconditions, with the israelis, and i appreciate the position that the obama administration has taken in this in trying to to convince the palestinian authority not to ask for this vote at u.n. it undercuts trust and it doesn't help the palestinian cause on the ground, i don't believe, because ultimately, the palestinian people are not going to attain statehood through the united nations. they're going to attain sta statehood as a result of negotiations with the israeli government. >> senator lieberman, thank you very inch. >> thank you. good day. >> you, too. and coming up next, the verdict on the inquiry into the british hacking scandal next on "andrea mitchell reports." twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives
there and they have passed a tax cut extension program that the obama administration wants. it would essentially lay the groundwork for a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell saying raising limits. we're talking about what will happen if the parties don't come to a deal. a record number of filibusters. john boehner is fighting to keep it that way. we'll tell you what that's about. >>> fast food workers stage the largest strike in their history. we'll show you what they hope to accomplish here in the big apple. >>> and later the white house releases the first beau obama christmas video. it's much better than the old barney camp videos and we have the tape to prove us. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. of ta. it's changing the conversation. ♪ or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-i
have conveyed, if you will, to the obama administration. so the question is this the beginning of the president creating a new normal, as johnson says, in which we are not in a state of war and the president is not executing war powers in a consistent and endless way? >> ron, you are a student of leadership, both a student of good leadership and bad leadership. i feel like leaders good and bad can generally be counted on to never give up power that they have been granted. if this president does draw a hard line under the war, the war on terror and say the war is over and the powers associated with this war are no longer the powers of this office, i mean, is that a fantasy? is this something you can imagine this president doing? >> you know, if he's going to do it, this constitutional law president, it will be in this term. it might be to the end of the term. the issues, no matter what happens on some of these sort of legal sort of standards, the issues in a way don't change. small groups of people can get their hands on weapons that were once powerful and reserved for nations.
the obama administration never explaining that they were advising the romney campaign. there has to be transparency and if you're getting paid cash by a candidate or advising a campaign, you have to disclose that. >> jon huntsman criticized big players in the gop saying that just concerned were getting on fox. he said, i looked down the debate stage and half of them were probably on fox contracts at one point in their career. you do that, you write some books, go out and sell some more, you get a radio gig or tv gig out of it or something, you say to yourself, the barriers of entry to this game are pretty damn low. >> you not only write some books but in some cases they buy the books. these organizations and think tank. and they do this. they will buy books and actually give them away, therefore, driving up the sales of the books. they get on a list and people think that they have honestly sold books to individuals all over the country. look, they are not a journalistic be organization. and i know what people will now e-mail me and say. well, they are number one. they are number
is switching mightily in his face from the obama administration. >> i guess he's proof that you can be a billionaire and not particularly clef. ken vogel and professor dyson, i'm sorry, ken's feed to us has broken down but we're grateful to his contribution as always. >>> next, has fox news put a sock in two of the right's biggest mouths? stay with us. >> where is your -- this proposal is an inassault. this is is like stalin [ bleep ] the bald eagle. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles ] [ male announcer ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharmacists and other health professionals who helped us achieve the highest average star rating among national medicare companies... and become the first and only national medicare advantage company to ach
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in washington. president obama took the show on road today. who are not impressed by the administration's opening budget officer. -- offer. joining me is kristen welker, and luke russert. first to you, the calculus in going to the suburbs of philadelphia, kristen, clearly he feels that the political play right now is better than the inside game that didn't work for him during the super committee negotiations, but can that backfire? >> right now the president feels as though he has a fair amount of leverage having won re-election so he's trying to build momentum on the road. remember, this is a tactic that worked for him during the payroll tax cut fight when he went out, took his case to the american people, so he is doing it once again today in hatfield, pennsylvania, a suburb of philadelphia, speaking at a toymaker and making the case that toymaker would be harmed. consumer confidence begdwindled they would lose business if dungs fails to get a deal done and they would wind up spending less on christmas shopping, for example. this is a tactic that has been persuasive in the past. of co
with president obama digging in his heels about raising taxes on the wealthiest. senior administration official telling "the wall street journal" there will be no new offers until republicans allow tax rates to go up on top earners. this morning, the president accusing the gop of brinksmanship while republican senator orrin hatch said democrats are asking for too much. >> it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the weltiest americans. >> what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. >> joining me now nbc white house news correspondent mike viqueira. what can you make of this? fiscal cliff talks are they a nonstarter? >> i tell you, you listen to everything that is being said publicly. you see the president there. it's clear that the election, yes, is over. but the campaign goes on here. you know, i really believe that there two things that are clear from the white house to republicans. we are still in pr
enjoy joining the obama administration, sbt it? >> based on the readout that we got from that meeting, i would say so. they talked about where there might be said interests, maybe that's why they talked about america's role in the world by all of the reports. you know, if you cannot agree on any of the fundamentals about what america is, what the common ground is from that election and you heard stewart stevens, there's one thing to not believe the polls beforehand but you've got to believe the poms afterwards. there is no common ground here. if governor romney had taken a different position about health care, maybe there could have been common ground at this point. he ran away from the very policy that the president embraced. he ran away from his own record. >> usually when people say, we'll stay in touch, that means they are not going to be talking often. >> exactly. >> but karen, the republicans seemed reluctant to talk about the luncheon but senator reid seemed to be pretty happy to talk about it. let me show what you he said. >> i think this is great. none of us here have any ill wi
passed a tax cut extension program that the obama administration wants and it would essentially lay the groundwork for getting a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. they could then move on to the spending cuts portion. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> giants are okay. i like the packers better. remember to answer tonight's question question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says democrats need to raise the eligibility age for medicare? obama care architect dr. zeke manual joins me to talk about what will happen if the parties don't come to a deal. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... t
of the powers granted or obtained by the bush administration have conveyed, if you will, to the obama administration, with some caveats you mentioned. the question is, is this the beginning of this president creating, i guess, a new normal, as johnson says? in which we are not in a state of war and the president is not executing war powers in a consistent and endless way? >> ron, you are a student of leadership, both a student of good leadership and bad leadership. i feel like leaders good and bad can generally be counted on to never give up power that they have been granted. if this president does draw a hardline under the war, the war on frterror and say this war is over and the powers i had that are associated with this war are no longer the powers of this office, i mean, is that a fantasy? is this something you can imagine this president doing? can you imagine any president doing it? >> you know, if he's going to do it, this constitutional law president, it will be in this term. you know, it might be toward the end of this term. these issue, no matter what happens on some of these
the obama administration to push them into it. >> is this a game changer in the mideast? how does this affect things, this new u.n. status? >> i'm not sure it's a game changer. because the palestinians still don't have their own country, and their own borders, and their own security and so forth. >> but the fact that they're identified as a state now. i mean, we constantly talk about a two-state solution. >> right. >> living side by side in peace. the u.n. says granted they're nonvoting, they're observer, but they are a state. >> exactly. >> i mean is that, that whole number of votes that supported that. doesn't it make a huge statement? >> it makes a statement symbolically, because they're not really a state in practice, because they don't really control every inch of their territory for obvious reasons. but, it's -- it makes a difference for them, because they feel then they can negotiate with israel state to state. not that they really can. but it's a big prestige thing for them, more symbolic than practical. >> what about israel's discussion about these 3,000 housing units tha
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